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harry truman did it for herbert hoover. maybe this president could do it for mitt romney. it would set the right tone for the last term. that's what i care about. some common ground out there is going to be the story of the next coming weeks. can they or can't they? that's "hardball" for now. "politicsnation" with al sharpton starts right now. >>> thanks, chris. and thanks to you for tuning in. tonight's lead, mr. romney comes to washington but republicans still don't understand why he lost. the white house released this photo of governor romney and president obama in the oval office. this photo taken the day after their big lunch. through the door, you can see the private dining room where they shared a lunch of turkey chili and southwestern grilled salad and right behind the second-place finisher is the presidential race. you can see the desk that belonged to president kennedy. it's the desk he thought he'd be sitting at. the white house says the lunch was friendly. mr. romney congratulated the president on his victory and wished him well over the next four years. they also talke
date for mitt romney, going to the white house to meet with president obama. >> making a run for it, a zebra and a pony. those are real pictures. welcome to "early start." this was sent to us yesterday. they said this is a serious and true story. i said no way. it is. john berman is hosting "starting point" at 7:00, it's now 5:00 a.m. in the east. first 33 days until we reach the fiscal cliff and things are heating up on capitol hill. tim geithner, the chief fiscal cliff negotiator will meet with congressional leaders in an effort to get talks moving. there's no time to waste because there may be 33 days to get a deal done, but congress breaks for the holiday. that happens in just 15 days. white house correspondent dan lothian is live from washington this morning. dan, that clock is ticking louder and louder what is the very latest? i hear there are one-on-one meetings happening today. >> that's right. these are the president himself not sitting down and talking with lawmakers, but timothy geithner will be on capitol hill and other senior level members of the administration trying t
intelligence that would have been provided to governor romney receiving intelligence briefings in the final stages of the campaign and perhaps i have believed that's why he stayed away from the issue in the final debate. so why aren't they saying, we need more information about the cia? we need to know where was the intelligence failure on the part of cia. that seems to me a very reasonable question as opposed to holding responsible she who went on and repeated what those talking points were saying. >> erin, let me bring you in on this. you heard michael, a laundry list of things they could be asking regarding the investigation but you have susan collins and john mccain willing to endorse john kerry. that may be their sincere and honest opinion but why not answer i'm focused on benghazi and the investigation and not potential nominees for secretary of state, both eager to say they would support john kerry. why? >> well, look. republicans are still looking to punish the administration over benghazi. we know that. republicans think that president obama got a pass on benghazi during the electi
. he's right, isn't he? the math doesn't add up. it didn't add up with mitt romney. it doesn't add up today. >> it doesn't add up, and those targeted revenue measures serve certain goals that we actually care about more than helping billionaires. those goals include what you just said, incentivizing charitable giving, and also home ownership, which is a middle to upper class benefit, but it's one that we've always encouraged with the mortgage interest rate deduction because we want people moving into the middle class. that matters more, that is better than just worrying about billionaires. one other point i want to hit since we're on the martin bashir show, i know this is a place for real talk so if we can have some real talk for a second. there is no fiscal cliff. there's no special deadline. these are long-term debates. you were asking mr. russert about the past negotiations because these are debates we've had in the past that we will continue to have in the future. some people would rather solve them in the bottom of the ninth. that would be better. but if we go into the tenth or 1
romney had lunch with president obama over at the white house. and in the middle east, joy and flag waving because of an impending decision at the united nations. i'll ask israel's ambassador to the united states why he thinks -- why his country thinks the u.n.'s possibly interaction is a bad idea. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >>> we begin with today's hard words in the negotiations to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff. that steep across the board spending cut and tax increase scheduled to hit in just 33 days. in a scathing assessment today, the speaker of the house john boehner says there's been no substantive progress on a deal. need to realize there can be no deal without tax rates going up for top earners. let's go live to our chief white house correspondent jessica yellin. she's got more on the latest developments. tough talk from both sides, jessica. >> reporter: tough talk and some bright lines, wolf. on the same day that treasury secretary tim geithner went to capitol hill to meet with both democrats and republicans to talk about these negotiations, there
speech 23 days ago, is hosting mitt romney, who has made no secret that he really thought that it would be the other way around. and our dan lothian is counting down the minutes, standing by at the white house, even though, dan, you are not invited to the luncheon, nor am i or anyone else at the camera, a mic or even a pen. why is it so private? >> reporter: that's right. oftentimes, the president will have meetings here at the white house, lunches or official meetings, where the president is not invited in. our cameras are not allowed in. sometimes our cameras are allowed in but no editorial presence. this one of those where no cameras allowed in, we're hopeful the white house will take a pick pur and release it to us, but at this point no plans for us to sort of get a peek inside that room and listen in on that conversation. although we hope that there will be some kind of a readout to give us some indication as to what the two politicians discussed. >> you know, dan, oftentimes people say these meetings are just to make nice or to have a good photo op. in this particular case, not un
mitt romney will have a private lunch with president obama tomorrow. it will be their first face-to-face meeting since the election and oh, to be a fly on the wall. makes you wonder if they'll be talking about this, the austerity crisis, better known as the fiscal cliff facing washington and the country. this hour president obama will speak live at the white house flanked by middle-class families whose household budgets depend on congress reaching a deal by january 1st. his latest effort to use his bully pulpit. nearby on capitol hill, both parties are meeting behind closed doors at this very minute. each side hashing out where they are willing to compromise and where they are drawing the line in the sand. >>> the other big story we're watching for you, a second round of sitdowns for united nations ambassador susan rice, who's in an all-out campaign of her own to face her critics. after three republicans issued blistering comments yesterday, this morning rice is meeting with republican senator susan collins of maine and in an hour is expected to meet with senator bob corker of te
than mitt romney and paul ryan throughout the campaign, a problem as real today as it will be tomorrow -- the math. as the president explained in his first post-election interview on bloomberg this afternoon. >> it's a simple proposition that you can't raise enough revenue, and if you don't raise enough revenue through closing loopholes and deductions, then it's going to be middle class families who make up the difference. >> indeed. as the president notes, you can't get $800 billion in revenue without eliminating, for example, charitable deductions, which would put all manner of hospitals, shelters, and churches on the road to ruin. as the president said, that's not his idea of a balanced approach. >> middle class seniors who are on medicare, young people who are trying to get student loans to go to college, i can't ask them to sacrifice and not ask anything of higher income folks. >> no, that's republicans job, of course, a very special christmas for the very, very rich brought to you by the makers of romney and ryan. congressman charles rangel is a democrat from new york and he join
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had an interesting lunch today. governor romney spent an hour or so at 1600 pennsylvania avenue we check it out and found the practice is pretty darn common. look at the pictures. president obama with john mccain in 2008. bush and clinton in '92. bush and dukakis in '88. carter and reagan in 198. oddly enough, though, bob there was one loser we couldn't find. turns out mondale, '84, lost to reagan. no pictures. what happened? >> bob: we didn't like to menu dand sided not to go. we expected an invitation and never got one. we did. >> eric: c'mon. >> eric: never got an invitation. i went through every president in 1980 -- >> bob: you think we snuck in the backdoor? we would have gone and got a picture. >> eric: i saw reagan and carter. >> bob: what do you think happen? >> brian: i hear they should have got together but reagan never liked carter. >> bob: never. >> brian: that stayed true. cart and ford got to be good friends but not until reagan was in office. >> eric: what do you think? would you love to be a fly on the wall? >> dana: they invited him to the office to have a lunch th
's this for irony? mitt romney has finally captured 47% of america. remember this video that sunk the romney campaign? >> there are are 47% of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. 47% who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them. >> well, the cook report points out romney shared a popular vote of this country has fallen to, you guessed it, 47.4%. as expected to fall further. something about the 47 mark, exactly. ouncer ] jill and her mouth have lived a great life. but she has some dental issues she's not happy about. so i introduced jill to crest pro-health for life. selected for people over 50. pro-health for life is a toothpaste that defends against tender, inflamed gums, sensitivity and weak enamel. conditions people over 50 experience. crest pro-health for life. so jill can keep living the good life. crest. life opens up when you do. bp has paid overthe people of bp twenty-threeitment to the gulf. billion dollars so jill can keep living the good life. to help those
romney has finally captured 47% of america. remember this video that sunk the romney campaign? >> there are 47% of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. 47% who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them. >> well, the cook report points out romney shared a popular vote of this country has fallen to, you guessed it, 47.4%. as expected to fall further, and settle at the 47 mark, exactly. we'll be right back. >>> welcome back to "hardball." following an election in which republicans overwhelmingly lost african-americans, latinos and women generally you think a picture like this, look at it, would be something republicans would want to try to avoid. yet these are the faces of the house committee chairman, men, selected by the republican party. i guess there's a little diversity there. white man with brown hair, white man with blond hair, old white guy, young white guy. do the republican party people in charge of the house, for example, did they learn anything f
people indicated in their discussion, there could not have been a clearer difference between mitt romney and the president on this issue as noted a thousand times but hearing a congress saying my integrity means more to my party and he's a part of that party, what are we to make of that for speaker boehner? >> this is a time of struggle for the republican party. having lost the white house and lost key groups very badly they need to win to win a coalition that wins them the presidency. they're really asking themselves tough questions right now. there's a broad reset to me going on and the house republican conference, john boehner, the speaker, told them last year in the congress we don't have the votes to get what you want, telling the conservatives that. this year, eight fewer votes and he has to govern and wants a deal and not the difficulty so there's a classic establishment tea party division going on right now and if you don't help him out and cross the line, you will get punished. timing is terrible for john boehner. he wishes we wasn't involved in the negotiations but this is the
. tomorrow, the business guy trying to take his job. that's right, president obama and mitt romney will be meeting at the white house for lunch in the private dining room, no, no. no cameras, no reporters. just the president and his challenger, sitting down to talk, after a long and bitter battle. it is a meeting president obama anticipated in his acceptance speech back on election night. >> we may have battled fiercely, but it is only because we love this country deeply. and we care so strongly about its future. in the weeks ahead, i also look forward to sitting down with governor romney to talk about where we can work together to move this country forward. >> jim acosta covered that long and often brutal campaign. jim, you look nice. good to see you. >> every time i try to get out, they pull me back in. >> we needed you. we needed you. look, this meeting, this is not the kind of thing where you're the president of the united states, you pick up the phone and say, hey, mitt, let's meet. there are negotiations, there are conditions. how did the meeting happen? >> that's a very good
the president. is the white house trying to show the american people that president obama knocked mitt romney out in this election? did they do this on purpose? we'll never know. but maybe louie gohmert can help us out. that's "the ed show." i'm ed schultz. "the rachel maddow show" starts right now. good evening, rachel. >>> we will know that is the case if we find some kind of mexican wrestling mask in the next pete sousa photo from the white house. then we'll know they're sending a message. >> thanks, raching. >> thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. okay. last year in the former soviet republic of georgia, which to refresh your memory is here sort of wedged into a port of the world called eurasia, in his struggling young nation of georgia, a 75-year-old grandmother was out looking for scrap metal and she happened by some dark miracle she happened upon the cable that connects much of that region to the outside world. the cable that she found when she was looking for scrap metal happened to carry the internet. the whole internet service for that whole part of the world. and because
and deductions while lowering rates. oh boy. it's the mitt romney plan again. the offer letter actually described the proposal as the bowles plan. republicans say the plan is based on the outline for the debt commission co-chair. the approach outlined in the letter speaker boehner sent to the president does not represent the simpson-bowles plan nor is it the bowles plan. the white house also rejected the offer in a statement today. the republican letter released today does not meet the test of balance. in fact, it actually promises to lower rates for the wealthiest americans and sticks the middle class with the bill. their plan includes nothing new and provides no details on which e deductions they would eliminate, which loopholes they would close or which medicare savings they would achieve. hold it right there, folks. loopholes, aren't we tired of hearing about loopholes? timothy geithner made appearances on all the sunday talk shows to hammer home the specifics of the white house plan. republicans tried to counter his presence using their favorite media source. >> timothy geithner scheduled a
and honey is mitt romney's sandwich. we'll see if they have it at the white house. how about this. could gitmo detainees be heading to your town. the move to close guantanamo bay. why it may be a bad idea. bill: any chance republicans fold on raising tax rates? we will find out when we ask senator john f u.n. e, and conservatives say the fight is far from over. >> republicans have stood for one thing specifically, it's held them together, they are the low tax party. the other guys want to tax to match their reckless spending. if they give it up now in return for nothing obama wins and he wins big. are you receiving a payout from a legal settlement or annuity over 10 or even 20 years? call imperial structured settlements. the experts at imperial can convert your long-term payout into a lump sum of cash today. i just finished a bowl of your new light chicken pot pie soup and it's so rich and creamy... is it really 100 calories? let me put you on webcan... ...lean roasted chicken... and a creamy broth mmm i can still see you. martha: unions are stopping work at another busy california port.
've learned over the years in advertising. >> what's interesting is the romney campaign didn't do it. >> i was about to say, josh, how did that compare with the beached whale of the rnc and the romney campaign officially known as orca? you know, give me some sense here that we had a clue, but i guess not, right? >> well, no. i mean, i think we're talking about two different things here. the obama campaign in general when it came to technology was years more advanced, i'm afraid, than anything the rnc or romney did. maybe that has something to do with your departure, michael. >> i would think so. we can have that conversation, too. >> the obama campaign, not only did they have a staff of 20 people writing just these e-mails, they were sort of monkeys chained to typewriters or computers, i guess. they also had an entire digital analytics team that would run controlled a.b. testing of each of these different e-mails. they would find the one that worked, and then they would blast that out to their e-mail list of tens of millions of supporters who dutifully would chip in more and more money. i
the race. the big one, romney's decision to pick congressman paul ryan as his running mate. axle rod also says that he was surprised the pro-romney super pacs waited so late to launch attack ads. the romney campaign should have done a better job defining their candidate instead of leaving a vacuum for the obama campaign to fill in, they filled it in pretty early. molly ball, national political reporter for "the atlantic." lynn sweet, chief for "chicago sun-times." you wrote about this and you also say that the obama campaign is engaging supporters about how to move forward. even conducting a post-election survey of sorts. what do you know? >> we know that more than one million of the supporters answered it and we already know that this big obama army is working on fiscal cliff matters where they're sgogoing to be, t are mobilized to help support the president's plan to get the tax breaks in first, but we're learning history, finally. we're getting it in the first david alex raxlerod is talking he never thought that paul ryan would be the vice president pick. >> who did he think? >> he tho
day, itself. harry truman did it for herbert hoover. maybe this president could do it for mitt romney. give him a job he can do well. it would set just the right tone for the second term. that's what i care about. we ain't getting anything done until the two parties try to find some common ground out there. and that's going to be the story of the next couple weeks. can they or can't they? that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "the ed show" with ed schultz starts right now. >>> good evening, americans. welcome to "the ed show" from new york. john boehner wants cost cutting details from the president? tonight, details on the speaker's shell game. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> the white house, this is not a game. i'm disappointed in what's happened. >> the speaker of the house is disappointed. he's also deceptive and dishonest. >> democrats have yet to get serious about real spending cuts. >> tonight, richard wolffe on today's nonsense from republicans and where a deal on the fiscal cliff stands. and former health insurance executive wendell potter on what o
challenger is but did not reference judd specifically. mitt romney is going back to work at his own job. marriott international has announced romney rejoined the board of directors after resigning two years ago. as for how much romney will earn, s.e.c. showed that directors received a base pay of $60,000 plus $1250 for every meeting they attended. romney has a long-time friendship with the members of marriott family and has served on the board off and on since 1993. >>> all right. time for the "news nation" gut check. bloomberg news is reporting that president obama is considering "vogue" anna wintor to be the next u.s. ambassador to the uk or france. she raised $500,000 for his re-election campaign. she's been at "vogue" for more than 25 years and they say she's very happy about the current job. the white house was asked about the report and declined comment on it. do you believe the bloomberg report that anna winter is being considered as a possible u.s. ambassador? go to to cast that vote. that does it for this edition of "news nation." thank you for joining u
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to the white house hat must have been an extraordinary moment. mitt romney and obama get together. for me it's awkward that they had the meeting at the white house. was that mean? shouldn't they have don't at a tgif. neutral ground? not to rub his nose in the place that he wanted to live. >> reporter: given romney's finances, -- he came here, he left without talking to reporters. we are digging for details on how it went. the white house insists they were trying to be open and courteous to mitt romney. show the peaceful transfer -- there is no violence. the race was hard fought. mr. obama won, in romney moves on and mr. romney also sat down with another important man in all this. fall ryan his running-mate. that would be interesting to be a fly on the wall. megyn: there are funny lines on twitter about that meeting and what should have been served at the meeting. thank you, sir. a white house social media effort to tip the public opinion in its favor on these fiscal cliff negotiations is starting to get controversial. the president urging americans to go to twitter and tweet my2k. do you kno
: my goodness. i understand mitt romney is coming to the white house for that lunch. i don't know, what is everybody expect to come from that? >> the president said the president wanted to talk to governor romney about ideas to make it more efficient. praising the management of the 2002 olympics, said he did a good job there. governor romney is one that raised the ideas happen deductions for tax for people to come up with as far as tax reform, come up with more tax revenue. melissa: thank you so much for your input, peter barnes. lori: what is on the menu? got to give a shout out. there is another battle brewing over the fiscal cliff, instead congress and the white house, this one happening on twitter. melissa: dennis kneale is covering the story with the latest. i love this one. >> the obama administration renowned for the use of social networks but this time maybe it outdid itself. the president urging americans to tweet their support for using the hash tag mo farah, as in my $2000, raised taxes on somebody else. now my2k has become a way to trash obama and cheering at the democrats.
. it is chile, right? martha: turkey chile. bill: president obama hosting governor mitt romney for a private lunch at white house. this is the photo released by the white house, shaking hands at the oval house. they had a lunch, hour long, no media or press cameras. press press was asked about it. listen here. melissa: nothing is preventing you from speaking with governor romney about it. well, that is obviously up to former governor romney to decide whether he wants to have a conversation with you. and, you're welcome, when the president, next appears before you to ask him about it. we will provide a readout. but we didn't, i think they wanted to have, each man wanted to have a private conversation. they didn't want to turn it into a press event. bill: we hear that governor romney congratulated the president on his campaign and wished himself. they promised to stay in contact if there are opportunities to work on shared interest. don't hold your breath. martha: a new government report out shows americans cut back on their spending last month and saw no growth in their incomes. the commerce
at harvard kennedy school where right this very minute senior campaign managers from the romney and obama campaign and every other campaign are being debriefed by top political reporters and it is interesting because obama clearly sees that he has a mandate out of the election on fiscal cliff issues. even though it wasn't a huge issue in the debate the white house is behaving like it has that mandate. what you have been seeing is republicans showing signs of flexibility and i am not just talking john boehner saying revenue is on the table. we have republican senators saying they will stand up to the grover norquist tax pledge. they're willing to break it which is pretty big news. we also have the influential member of congress, republican tom cole saying we have got to agree to extend the tax cut just for those people making $250,000 and below and letting the more wealthy be taxed. definitely flexibility but what you see from democrats is an unwillingness to do serious entitlement reform that would lead to reductions in spending. they want to kick the can down the road and do more of the
and lower tax rates. >> no, no, no. republicans are not getting the mitt romney tax proposal. time to move on speaker boehner. republicans are furious about the white house proposal. mitch mcconnell told the weekly standard he burst into laughter when he received the deal. the new second ranking republican in the senate john cornyn also disparaged the deal. >> that's a crazy idea. i'm amazed that secretary geithner had the courage to float that yesterday. hence the laughter from senator mcconnell. that's the kind of response it deserves. >> they are laughing in public, but they are panicking behind closed doors. conservative writer matt lewis, writer for "the daily caller", the notion that republicans have leverage is silly. it's the same kind of happy thinking that led to some boldly-predicting a romney victory. he said republicans are so screwed. this is why president obama is playing to his strengths. the president has never had a problem rallying the american people to his side. >> understand this was a central question in the election. maybe thee central question in the election. we t
that president obama will be better for business than mitt romney, but just before that second obama term begins, he's getting a dividend. mr. senegal and the rest of the costco board voted this week to give themselves a special dividend, a 3 billion dollar christmas gift for shareholders that will allow them to be taxed at the current rate of 15% rather than next year's rate of over 40%. and costco is just one of many companies making these one-time cash payouts in a move that will save stocks holders like senegal unless in dividend taxes. and so, mary, turns out maybe taxes do influence investor behavior. what's the meaning of the great cashout of 2012? >> well, don't tax you, don't tax me, tax the guy behind the tree. >> paul: russell long, former late senator. >> exactly. and what you see here are very wealthy people who can, you know, engineer ways to avoid taxes, meanwhile, what he's-- the medicine he's suggesting for people who are starting to do better, people who say, make $200,000, maybe working their whole life. they're the ones who are going to get hit with the obama taxes and really
winning senate confirmation. >>> well, mitt romney is going to the white house after all. the former presidential candidate is meeting president obama for lunch today in a private white house dining room. now, the president had promised, of course, in his victory speech that he would reach out to his rival. romney has been spending most post election time at his family's home in southern california. wouldn't you like to be a fly on the wall of that one? ♪ awkward >> slightly. or maybe they will actually be more, more warm and hospitable than we think. >> you think with such a partisan, divisive election. you wonder how they kind of break that ice, and the president with his political role model, lincoln. team rival. there was at some point, romney would be treasury secretary. a little unlikely. at least give romney a role in some economic council or advisory position. >> the president has gone on record and says he respects romney for his work with the olympics, restoring the olympics, you know, his skillset lends to ideas that could get the economy growing going. but his spokesman
are absolutely right. mitt romney got 27% of latino votes. president bush got 44% when he won re-election back in 2004. do you think he could have made a difference? would he have made a difference for mitt romney if he had stepped in earlier in the debate and said, look, you know what, i believe mitt romney supports latino community and here is why? >> no, and i don't think he should have. look, suzanne, let's face it. mitt romney dug his own hole, and he is now laying in his own grave. i think, you know, for president bush it was important, and i haven't spoken to him, but i just, you know, knowing the bushes, they don't get into the fray of other people's politics, and they defer to that nominee. they defer to that candidate when it is his turn to be the candidate, but i think this issue is just important to them. it's been important to them their entire life. he has had, you know, great relationships with hispanics across texas and also across the nation. it is true, as i said to you, for the entire bush family. it's something they've always embraced diversity and seen the positive in immi
17 people over, half were puerto ricans, mexican, i was the only one who voted for romney. the only one in the room. i got to tell you something, they sold the idea that republicans, more black people voted for obama because they were afraid of romney. not because they loved obama but they were so fearful of romney and republicans. >> i think it is a case of actions speaking louder than words. you can say to people we like you and we are inclusive but if you don't have representatives there that look like me or have been in my shoes i am not going to believe it. doesn't matter if you are a person of color, if you're a woman or a person of a certain economic background you need that representation and you need those people to say i am a representative -- didn't have enough of those -- >> at some point it becomes pandering if you are just rolling out one black or hispanic -- [talking over each other] charles: you have to start the republicans started two weeks ago, got to the grass roots. you can't just show up. you have to be prepared. i don't think a blanket message is going to work
. tonight, mitt romney drops by the white house for a bite to eat with the president. plus, history as the united nations gets palestinians an upgrade and recognition as a palestinian state. it's a major change in status for the palestinian people. >> i think this is very important day for palestinians. >> shepard: but the united states and israel fiercely fought the shift. >> this is a provocative, unhealthy step that could undermine the peace process. >> it's a huge set back for the prospects of restarting peace talks with israel. >> shepard: tonight, what this means for the entire mideast. plus, two winning tickets for the record-setting power ball jackpot. >> the power ball jackpot winner in arizona will split the prize with the other winner in missouri. >> shepard: so who are those mystery winners? and executives at the twinkies manufacturer got big pay hikes last year even as the company was fighting to stay afloat. now with hostess brands heading down the tubes and how sands out of work. some of those execs are coming back for more. but first from fox this thursday night, thi
norquist also predicted an overwhelming victory by mitt romney and was proven wrong then, too. i think he and other republicans are playing a very dangerous game with their own political futures by failing to see the connection between this situation and the situation we were in around 1995 when there was a government shutdown. republicans thought they could drive this to the bitter end, and what happened? the american voters actually blamed them, the republicans, for what happened. i think it's a pattern in american politics when things happen that are, in effect, harmful government shutdowns, if you will, or breakdowns of process, the blame usually ends up on the side of the obstructionists in the republican party. i think there are enough republicans who want to win re-election who see that the strategy of obstruction failed them in this last election. they want to pivot and make a rebrand of the republican party. those are the folks that are the deciding votes in the republican caucus, enough to combine with democrats who shorten that margin in the house to get something passed. >> an
're just going to throw out the deduction and not specify it, that would be the only legacy of mitt romney that we're talking about right now. we all joked about how he was totally uninfluential in this party. this has stuck. didn't work for romney. people were not interested in that. i don't really see what interest the white house has in making a deal. so far all the public polling makes it look like, again, this could change, but all the public polling makes it look if we go over the cliff the republicans will be blamed and they're the ones being recalcitrant and the white house can make a deal on their terms because they won. >> in terms of who's going to get blamed if we go over the cliff, ari, is there a risk as the republicans put forth a plan f you're john public, does that seem like a reasonable offer? i don't know. they're playing ball. do the democrats risk getting blamed if we go over the fiscal cliff now that there is a counter offer from the gop? >> that's the interesting question. connects with what ezra was talking about. do the actual sacrifices happen in your backyard and
romney. he really should be sitting down having lunches with john boehner, friendly lunches. that's what peggy noonan writes because they got to get a deal and they're growing further and further apart. it looks like we're about to sail over the cliff. you know what? rush limbaugh said yesterday that that is exactly what the democrats want to happen. >> welfare state, santa claus is what secures votes for them. the welfare state is what guarantees a permanent underclass, which they need. so we if over the cliff. it's a win. everybody's taxes go up. you need that revenue to pay for your welfare state. in addition, what else happens? you get cuts in the military! you don't think a democrat likes that? if -- believe me democrats can't wait for military cuts, defense cuts. my whole life that's the only thing they want to cut! here it is just waiting for them. it's already done. all we have to do is go over the cliff! >> steve: yep. >> gretchen: there is a lot of relevancy to that because who won the presidential el
if romney was elected because he was speaking i me with them but today they got the boot. >> coal stocks up dramatically today. walter energy refuse to comment on the entrance in them keeping the sector on fire. the et of jumping, names like james river and natural resources all above 3% or 1%. liz: costco hitting an all-time high, this is accompanied always gets props for great management but when you see a stock do that well, certainly the carry on top. >> since yesterday the vice president being there in washington d.c. and talking about how companies manage very well, their workers stay for a peers in anyway and stock heir hitting all-time high of $104.50 today. dave: let's look at the tech stocks, how they are rounding the end of this trading day, we have apple and zynga down, but facebook always likes to buck a trend. always -- it is of another 2% today. >> facebook has had a really nice run in the month of november. all that negative commentary disappearing. for the nasdaq, it had a great week up 1.5%
they didn't make it. ted cruz says that the real problem with mitt romney's disastrous 47% quote was that it accepted the notion that some people are rich. some people are poor. and that's how the pie looks. and then you redistribute among them. he's saying no. true conservatism -- and we've heard joe say this around the table -- >> absolutely. >> -- true conservatism means that everybody can do anything and that the republican party's missed that message. that's what they need to turn to. >> it's going to be interesting to see how they do that and if ted cruz becomes sort of the force in this. what do you think? what's your gut, mike? >> he's already offering himself -- he clearly wants to play that role. >> yeah. >> he said last night, i'm something that's not supposed to exist, a hispanic republican. so ted cruz is one of the most interesting parts of this reinvention of the republican party. another part of it, the new emphasis on immigration. >> yes. >> the effort to reach hispanics. we have a story up today saying that already republicans are going to pieces over this. that
in fact not the subject at all at the republican convention in tampa in august. as mitt romney was trying to win the presidentee again, george w. bush was really a recluse. i think now that the election is over the republicans lost. he wants to have a role in one of his causes. immigration is a passion he shares with his brother jeb, former governor of florida who is thinking of his own political future and possibly a white house run and wants to help in the reset of the republican party which will include taking a serious look at actually finally engaging on immigration reform. jon: fair to say hispanics did not exactly flock to mitt romney this time around. george w. bush did pretty well with them both four years ago and eight years ago. >> reporter: very well, he got about 41% in his last election, that is a number republicans are going to have to meet in order to win the demographics of a presidential run and get a coalition that gets you the map to win the white house. 71-27, which it was this time is not going to get you the white house. you have to be upwards of 40%, possibly in fu
at length about the challenges facing the nation and their party. ryan praised romney and spoke out against divisive politics as some soft rind distancing himself from the 47% remark. paul ryan mentioned poverty 15 times and says that the gop has to stick to conservative principles and appeal to more voters. >> the election didn't go our way. the republican party can't make excuses. we can't spend the next four years on the sidelines. instead, we must find new ways to apply a timeless principles to the challenges of the day. >> marco rubio barely even mentioned the campaign and focus on conservative policy proposals. he says they will strengthen and expand the middle class. he says the middle class is struggling and it's harder for some people to reach out. >> there is a growing opportunity gap developing. millions of americans worry that they may never achieve middle-class prosperity and stability, and they worry that their children will be tracked as well. with the same life and problems. >> a rough count has it as many as 22 republicans actually talking about it. in a few cases, some peo
advice for stuart stevenson? >> the republican party wants romney to go away. he only existed as a presidential candidate and possibility. there is not a lot of clamor for stuart to be involved in another presidential campaign. i feel sorry for him. you lose. it is a short, painful thing but it lasts a long time. >> bob shrum, good to have you. >>> in the wake of the 2010 midterm elections, a fight broke out in washington over what had been a routine piece of washington business. republicans threatened to vote to force the country to default on its loans. this he were not going to raise the debt ceiling, remember. president obama responded in a prime time address to the nation. he asked the american people to get involved in that fight he was having with the republicans. he asked the american people to get involved directly. >> the american people may have voted for divided government but they didn't vote for a dysfunctional government. so i'm asking you all to make your voice heard. if you want a balanced approach to reducing the deficit, let your member of congress know. if
gave more than 70 speeches for romney over the last campaign year. last year both openly joked together about hitting the trail early in 2016, livin'. >> i will see you at the reunion. table for two. good diners in new hampshire or iowa? [ laughter ] >> paul, thank you four invitation for lunch in iowa and new hampshire. but i will not stand by and watch the people of south carolina ignored. >> marco rubio standing up for sowrk which votes third in the nominating process after iowa and new hampshire. the election was just a month ago. the president has not yet been reinaugurated and rubio has already actually been to iowa where he acknowledged all the talk about him running and actually joked that he will not be a candidate for coach at iowa state, harris. >> okay. i'm glad he cleared that up. carl. i understand they got very serious and talked about the future of the republic party. >> they did. and that also refers to their own political future as white house candidate. rubio he spoke at lengths about the middle class. ryan mentioned those poverty. more than a dozen times. the g.o.p.
. >>> and this just in, we're hearing what mitt romney will be doing in the future. we'll tell you about his new gig. >>> plus, more on our breaking news from capitol hill now getting that counteroffer from republicans to the white house, their initial starting point plan when it comes to the fiscal cliff. le announcer ] red lobster's hitting the streets to tell real people about our new 15 under $15 menu. oh my goodness! oh my gosh, this looks amazing! [ male announcer ] our new maine stays! 15 entrees under $15, seafood, chicken and more! oo! the tilapia with roasted vegetables! i'm actually looking at the wood grilled chicken with portobello wine sauce. that pork chop was great! no more fast food friday's! we're going to go to red lobster. yep. [ male announcer ] come try our new menu and sea food differently! and introducing 7 lunch choices for just $7.99. salad, sandwiches, and more. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] everyone deserves the gift of all day pain relief. this season, discover aleve. all day pain relief with just two pills. >>> quick update for you on former republican presidential hopeful
being revenues. when mitt romney was talking about revenues, he was talking about growing the economy and putting people back to work. we're merely talking about spreading the wealth around this country. it's been shown in history, sean, it doesn't work. >> sean: the attitude we see here is unprecedented in american history in terms of on an annual basis, trillion dollars deficits, we'll leave our kids worse off than we found the country. i call it fiscal selfishness. where is the morality of not spending more than you take in and robbing from your kids? >> that's been a case for a long time. and i fault a lot of republicans for this. certainly democrats have put these things on steroids in terms of spending. but enough republicans over decades have gone down the road of big government, big spending big entitlements, compassionate conservism. >> senator, you follow the economy every day. before the election, unemployment, 2013, is going to be over 9%. >> uh-huh. >> sean: they went back in a recession, you got other countries falling into a recession, we have anemic growth at best. is
. and allison schwartz me as well. mitt romney licking his wounds over an election loss he thought would never happen. hats next for him and why he's not interested in hoping to remake the republican party. plus a bittersweet victory for the kansas city chiefs as the team and its fans try to come to grips with the senseless tragedy, what drove jovan belcher to kill his girlfriend and then himself. [ female announcer ] a classic meatloaf recipe from stouffer's starts with ground beef, unions, and peppers baked in a ketchup glaze with savory gravy and mashed russet potatoes. what makes stouffer's meatloaf best of all? that moment you enjoy it at home. stouffer's. let's fix dinner. now is a good time to think about your options. are you looking for a plan that really meets your needs and your budget? as you probably know, medicare only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. so consider an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, they cover some of what medicare doesn't
of the fiscal cliff discussions and sat down for lunch with former rival mitt romney. >> i am sure they will or have already compared experiences on the campaign trail. >> today president obama hits the road to push for his plan to avoid the fiscal cliff. but republicans have slammed him for campaign-style politics that they say just won't get the job done. rob and sunny, back to you. >> can you really imagine that they're not going to reach some sort of deal to avoid the fiscal cliff? i mean that would be so unpopular across the nation. >> you would -- if you can take an action that would solve the problem for 98% of the country and then come back to the debate about the wealthiest 2%, let's get that first chunk done. republicans fear they could lose leverage if they cave in on the middle-class issue. apparently the president, his team has made increased demand here including, a provision now, part of the negotiations where, the congressional control over the debt limit would go away. and congress does not like to have its power take any way. so maybe the white house, upped the an
. >>> speaking of money, mitt romney is making a career move of sorts. he's rejoining the board of directors for marriott hoe tels. romney held the post from 1993 to 2002. that's when he left to run for governor of massachusetts. he had another two-year run before stepping down in 2011 to run for president. >>> well, from britain, the news you undoubtedly heard by now the pregnancy announcement heard round the world. while kate middleton, duchess of cambridge, spent a day in a hospital in london. the early baby buzz is turning into the early baby. brandi hitt has the royals celebrating and, of course, speculating. >> reporter: the royal wait is over. prince william and wife kate are expecting their first child and drawing congratulations from around the world. >> it's absolutely wonderful news, and i'm delighted for them. i'm sure they will make absolutely brilliant parents. >> reporter: the future queen of england was in her first trimester after kate was hospitalized with hyperemesi hyperemesis gravidarum, a rare condition that causes severe vomiting and dehydration, and h.g. can give a hi
, fundamentally, is an awful lot like what mitt romney was talking about during the campaign. the deductions, for example, if we're going to get the $800 billion from, you can't -- they don't add up. you can't get there with those deductions. >> but it's also a lot like erskine bowles proposal before the simpson-bowles commission. because in other words it came from bill clinton's chief of staff. this is where the proposal -- >> -- >> listen that's a point. that's how extreme this is, bob. and -- >> in terms of -- does not have the rate reductions, does not convert medicare and does not convert medicaid to a voucher. it doesn't have the structural changes that are objectionable to the democrats. there's a lack of specifics here. but if i'm the president i'm thinking they're putting $800 billion on the table in removing deductions and exemptions i'm going to pocket that and add some of the additional revenue from rates i can get from allowing rates to expire. >> we're going to be talking to senator johnson this morning also xavier becerra about the details or lack of details in the two compet
code. and at the even of the date president got millions more in the popular vote than romney because americans think by and large their wealthier neighbors and wealthier americans should be paying a fairer share. it's not fair when you have the wealthiest among us paying a lower effective tax rate. megyn: is the media -- the media has been focused on the tax hikes and whether president obama is going to get them and not focused on spending cuts. is that because the republicans and the president agree the middle class needs those tax cuts and should get them. the only thing they disagree on is whether the rich should also have tax cuts given to them. the left is say we agreet middle class should get the tax cuts. so let's give them to them. >> you are comment is largely right. the republicans have gone along in a bipartisan manner with the idea there has to be revenue. the speaker has put forward a framework in which he agrees there should be $800 billion of revenue on the table. the problem is -- that's only 1/10 of the problem even if you use the cbo's number. if you raise the taxes
nation's recognition of palestine as a nonmember observer state. governor mitt romney, we haven't said that in a little while, returning to corporate life, marriott says the former republican presidential nominee is rejoining their board of directors, which he left late last -- early last year i should say. and house speaker john boehner set to light the capitol christmas tree hours from now. the tree is 65 feet high, an engleman spruce from the white river national forest in colorado. beautiful. bill: usually it's jersey. new details about the final hours of jovan belcher apartments life. he spent the night with another woman before going home in the morning fighting with his girlfriend, cassandra perkins and shooting her repeatedly. many people report he was drunk the night before and spent the night at the home of another woman. dr. keith ablow is here. take us through the details. he fell asleep in his car outside the home of another woman, woken by the police inside the car, went inside the building, spent the night there and then in the morning he went home. when he went home is
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